Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:16:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RE: Emergence


Ruth,

this is interesting too:

"In the social production of their life, men enter
into definite relations that are independent of their
will, relations of production which correspond to a
definite stage of development of their material
poroductive forces"  Marx, A Contibution to the
Critique of of Political Economy.

>From this we would conclude that individuals are
emergent from society.  What would Bhaskar say?

I remember seeing a diagram somewhere where there was
a individuals-society-individuals-society .... 
dialectic going on.  Perhaps at the beginning of
humanity there were just individuals and from them
emerged society, from which other individuals emerged,
which created and new society, from which new
individuals emerged... etc.

This is one of those chicken or the egg questions. 
What I like about the diagram is that it shows the
importance of the dynamic between society and
individuals.  I also think it suggests that it is a
changing and constantly developing dialectic.

-Victor


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