Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 23:44:12 +0100
Subject: Re: M2 and "Marxism-Theory"


Jerry waxes self-critical:

>All along, there has been *only* one major problem with m2. That problem,
>put frankly, is that we are *infected* by the presence of some, like Hugh,
>who have always opposed the very existence of this list and who have gone
>out of their way to transmit m1 havoc onto this list.

Love you too, baby!

>The bottom line is this: in the Spoon reorganization plan there is no
>space currently for *us* to discuss issues of general interest to marxism
>(theory *and* praxis). The simple fact is that those who joined this list
>in disgust of what m1 had become will not join m-general. Most will
>probably also not join m-international since that list is being moderated
>by some from the m1 crowd who also opposed us on m2.

Paranoia speaks. Louis G is straight in spite of his Stalinist bent, and I
won't hear a word against Zeynep except my own!


>This whole reorganization reminds me of some "urban redevelopment" plans
>in urban areas in the US. With redevelopment thriving urban communities
>(usually working-class residential communities that surrounded the central
>business district) were bulldozed with the promise that the "city" would
>be better-off in the future as new businesses were created. It, of course,
>didn't work that way.
>
>Why should this viable community be sacrificed for the glory or some
>greater "plan" that may or may not see its potential realized?

Why all the kvetching, me old exclusivist? Spoon was quite OK by you when
it stroked your prejudices to split the old marxism-list, so why turn on it
now?

You sound like Zinoviev and Kamenev the day after they realized they'd been
sold down the river by Stalin.

"That stuff we were saying yesterday was only a joke among comrades, but
this is *our* skins on the line, man, this is serious!"

Perhaps, and I'm not joking or being facetious, there is a need for a Lisa
Rogers memorial list with the character of m2. Call it marxism-lisa.

Cheers,

Hugh

PS Note my constructive suggestion. Some infection!




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