Subject: Re: Holistic Thinking - Periander
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:56:12 -0800




Yes "holistic," but not YOUR meaning of "holistic," because
your meaning is
excluded by certain attitudes (such as the war mongering
one), and therefore
cannot possibly be the same as Heidegger's meaning, which
does not EXCLUDE
any possible attitude, precisely because Heidegger is trying
to present an
analytic of ANY and EVERY being-in-the-world. You cannot
just appeal to
"holistic" aspects of Heidegger's philosophy if that kind of
holism
encompasses what your holism excludes.

Anthony Crifasi


Huh!

Are you saying that Heideggers 'holism' includes every
possible attitude , even attitudes which may culminate in
acts of total annihilation for all life on earth?

Then you are saying that this holistic attitude is wise.

But what you have asserted here is that all attitudes are by
nature wise propositions, and that even attitudes which
culminate in total annihilation are also very wise.

The unwise according to Periander only consider the parts
within the whole....

I did not know that Heidegger was presenting an "analytic of
any and every 'being-in-the-world'. Can you explain what you
mean by 'being-in-the-world'?

Analysis means to define, explain, take the whole and
separate out into parts, and to unravel the nature of (   )
an object, or subject.

Holism (from the ancient Greek for whole) refers to a 'real'
and  'operative factor' arising from order and organization
within the universe. [Jan Smuts, Holism and Evolution]

Thus it may be said that the approach and attitude taken by
George Bush regarding Iraq is one of the possible, but it is
not inclusive, therefore unlikely to be considered as a
holistic approach to conflict resolution. Certain
participants within the UN Security Council will veto the US
engaging in war with Iraq.

When the UN reaches general consensus, there is an
'indication' of the type thinking and wisdom found in the
'taking care of the whole of being' which Periander and
Heidegger researched.

Secondly, for the US, regime change is perceived as being as
important as 'disarmament' even though the United Nations
does not concern itself with 'regime change' and certainly
as resolution 1441 indicates there is no need for a regime
change.

Holism also refers to a tendency for greater order and
perfection (organization) since disorder, chaos, and
imperfection of forms of deprivation of  'being' in general.

chao

john foster





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