Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 06:42:58 +0100
Subject: briefly brief (for now)


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Jud:

> If an entity is there in front of you and you can see it, feel it, smell it,
> taste it, hear it you can be fairly certain that it exists.

michaelP:
sounds like existence sounds like presence...

Briefly for now: the reality/actuality of something (possibly) real/actual
is different from (is not identical to) the (possibly) real/actual thing
itself. Similarly, the presence (thereness, face-ability, visibility,
touch-ability, aromacity, taste-ability, audibility, etc... see above) of a
present thing is (fairly certainly :-)) not identical to the present thing
itself. Surely?

A difference persists.

Vive la difference.

regards (I'm tired too, will continue at length later...)

michaelP



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HTML VERSION:

> If an entity is there in front of you and you can see it, feel it, smell it,
> taste it, hear it you can be fairly certain that it exists.