Subject: Re: US Violates Afghan Prisoners Rights to Life...and Justice
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:14:12 -0800




Subject: Re: US Violates Afghan Prisoners Rights to
Life...and Justice


John Foster wrote:

Saddam Hussein is 'America', it's old buddy. But now that
the US wants the
oil now and the water from the various large rivers to
supply Isreal, it
has no need any longer for Saddam. We know that the US gave
the 'green
light' to Saddam to seize Kuwait.

How sure is that, John? Because if it is, it would turn dad
Bush into
something VERY ugly, and Americans into deniers of
warcrimes.
I already thought that on account of the Shiits, that first
were admonished
to uprise, and then left to Saddam's cruelty, that is now so
eloquently
adduced. How is it possible he got away with it?

Rene, America, according to Paul earlier has denied it's own
war crimes. It is silent too on many matters of it's
dealings in at least 79 foreign nation states (cf. Chile to
Iraq). I think that Iranian Shiites were lead to fight the
Iraqi's formally by Khomeini and his regime, which was
attempting to storm the Arab world, invading first Iraq. The
Iraq government believed that it was acting on behalf of the
US in this war with Iran. Iraq at the time viewed Iran as a
fundamentalist regime dedicated to destroying American
dominance and western values in the Arab world. America was
protrayed as Satanic. So Saddam Hussein fought a war with
Iran which the US was in full support of. Unfortunately the
Iran-Iraq war cost billions of dollars and perhaps one
million lives in the region. After this very expensive and
tragic war, Iraq was unable to fund the repair of it's
economy, it found itself in huge debt, and rationalized that
it was necessary to seize Kuwait for it's oil riches (It was
refused substantial loans by Saudi Arabia and, and as well,
other Arab nations began selling their Iraqi loans to world
banks which infuriated Iraq). The US knew that Iraq intended
to attack Kuwait and was warned (there is a body of
literature on this indicating some briefings by Iraq).

Saddam Hussein did not get away with this attack on Kuwait
and we know that the US lead a large military expedition to
remove the Iraqi army. This was the Gulf War of 1990.
Unfortunately hundreds of thousands of fleeing Iraqi
soldiers and civilians were killed by the coalition forces.
Up to 2/3 rds of the oil wells were destroyed. According to
historians and analysts, the policy of 'containment'
resulted in sanctions which were part of US demands, and
these sanctions resulted in the premature deaths of up to
500,000 children due to malnutrition and disease.



Rene wrote:
Besides, take a look at the map, at Quwait. Looks like the
cork in Iraq's
ass. Is it going to be removed too in the next world order?
Or is this
order just built around these ulcers, as Israel is also one,
so that there
never will be a solution?

Rene, this question can only be answered in the future;
however according to the recent budget request by Bush and
his adminstration is that up to $7 billion USD will be
donated to Isreal and some $3 billion donated to Jordon for
'damages to their tourism industry' whereas the total
humanitarian aid to be allocated to Iraq for reparations
will be only $500 million USD. Now that indicates to me and
others perhaps that this amount is totally insufficient for
Iraq's costs in this war. Indeed the UN and other agencies
have indiacated that this amount is totally insufficient.
Moreover why would Isreal warrant 14 times more humanitarian
aid than would Iraq this year?

It appears that the US and it's allies in this war are
clearly working against the people of Iraq. Currently the
Food for Oil program of the UN is not operating due to the
fact that there are no means to disperse food and aid (the
fund has over $6 billion in reserves), and Koffi Anan has
indicated, along with the 'emergency security council of the
UN' today that there is huge humaintarian crises occurring
simply because relief organizations and the UN cannot
disperse this food and aid. The US and the UK are strictly
liable for preventing this aid and food from being given to
the poor in Iraq throughout the country. The US and the UK
are simply unwilling (except in Basra) to initiate a food
relief program *until they get their job done* despite the
rhetorical assurances that they will expedite assistance.

Rene:
Do America and Israel WANT a solution? Or do they
only want the final destruction of their enemies? So that
the Palestinians
will be the Indians of the Middle East? These all-mighty
states would not
be capable of a solution? Where there is a will, there is a
way, and the
Arabs are not the most miserable. But you have to give them
something,
after all the taking. Otherwise they will pay back. I'm a
little angry now,
how must they feel?

Rene,

they have a road map for the next 50 years. This is outlined
in the US policy on security, and I think you know about
this report which was adopted lately preferring
'pre-emptive' means to solve relations with foreign nations
which are said to be terrorist nations. Obviously Isreal is
not referred to as a terrorist nation (except in press talks
when there are attacks against Palestinians). Public
security is the objective of the US for it's own citizens
and there is nothing conclusive about securing the security
of foreign nationals any where (obviously because of diverse
reasons). So the solution therefore is to secure global oil
and energy resources primarily for the US citizen. This is
the goal and the solution. Recently it has been predicted
that the next terrorist nations which the US will invade are
Somalia and Yemen. I don't and cannot predict if Iran will
be one of the next nations to be targetted (the US may have
to wait for a year or two to get the funding in place and
congressional approval). The action in Iraq will burn up a
large portion of the US Federal budget this year and next.
The ultimate goal for the US is to secure the oil and water
in Iraq by creating a policy and economic environment in
Iraq which is favourable  to US and western oil companies.
The plan is to divert water from Iraq and pipe this to
Isreal as well. The US plans a total economic integration of
the middle east with itself, in a completely 'pre-emptive'
manner much similiar to an imperial power colonizing a small
nation with a weak central government. It is currently
completing a plan in Afghanistan to open the country up for
the construction of an oil pipeline to transport oil from
the Caspian Sea area. It is currently working with 'Taliban
Moderates' in Afghanistan in their civil war. The US is no
longer fighting to simply dispose of suspected Al Queda
networks, but is fighting militia units hostile to the
dominant Taliban moderates which have legislated the
persecution of women.

john







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