Subject: Re: censorship
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:00:01 +0000


Rene de Bakker wrote:

>There was some sniggering when I proposed a mild
>form of censorship, just to preserve self-respect.
>That's ok with me, but what about all this voluntary
>censorship?
>
>Hermann Goering at Nuremberg: "The people can always
>be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.
>All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked
>and then denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism
>and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any
>country."
>
>In the free world no dictators are needed anymore to
>force public opinion.

except in Iraq, of course, where a mysteriously amazing 99.99 percent of the 
voting public re-elected him last year.

>Chomsky, Oct. 2002: "The main question today is how
>and when to attack Iraq. In the mainstream media, you
>find an occasional voice saying there might be some
>problem about committing the crime for which people
>were hanged at Nuremberg, by attacking another country
>with who knows what effect without even a pretext.

I wonder if Chomsky gave a similar analysis when Soviet tanks rolled into 
Hungary, Afghanistan, etc.? Chomsky's leanings are well known.

>Right so, better be quiet. The one that says
>how it is, gets the blame. Goes for Heidegger,
>goes for Eminem.

Ok, as an Eminem fan, I've got to finally step in here. If he saw what was 
being attributed to him on this list, he would free-style a rap that would 
make even Kenneth blush. I don't know his views on Iraq, but to get at 
what's deep down inside, all you've got to do is watch or read any interview 
that has ever been done with him about his relationship with his family. He 
explicitly and condemningly says in interviews that HE is the result of the 
philosophy of the 60s. He especially emphasizes that his mother was the 
ultimate 60s flower child, complete with multiple lovers whom she brought 
home quite often. Free-love at its best. Just listen to his song, "Cleaning 
out my closet," which is pretty much all about his mother. You want to talk 
about anger - the rest of his songs pale in comparison. He says he tries 
with every ounce of his strength to prevent his own daughter from growing up 
in a similar situation, and that although he's not been perfect in this, he 
at least admits it and can therefore change. The 60s generation not only 
refused to admit this, but in addition actually advocated their way of life 
as a philosophical utopia, complete with backing in the Communist Manifesto 
itself. So Enimen is a self-admitted living, breathing, walking slap in the 
face for the philosophy of the 60s, which was actually just an outgrowth of 
a much earlier philosophy...

Anthony Crifasi

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