Subject: Re: the o/o gulf
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:58:48 +0000


Rene de Bakker wrote:

> >  "Ontological truth is unveiling of beingness--via the categories--but
> >  beingness as such is already *one* particular truth of beyng [Seyn], 
>one
> >  way in which its essential prevailing is cleared. This distinction
> >  between 'ontic and ontological truth' is only a doubling of
> >  unconcealment and initially remains ensconced within the Platonic
> >  approach. Thus what has been said hitherto only points the direction of
> >  an overcoming, but no overcoming is accomplished or grounded in terms
> >  of its own proper ground."
>
>Thanks Matthew,
>
>Mid-30ies will do. ('Beying') Texts like these, on th o/o distinction. or 
>the
>essentialy ambiguous character of the as-structur, abound. This one
>directly adstructs my statement that the od is something metaphysical.
>I admire Anthony (like Iraq) sticking to his position, he has the right 
>though
>to know that it is kamikaze what he's doing.

Oh geez Rene, READ what he says: "beingness as such is already ONE 
PARTICULAR TRUTH of beyng, ONE WAY in which its essential prevailing is 
cleared," so that "This distinction between 'ontic and ontological truth' is 
only A DOUBLING OF UNCONCEALMENT," so that such a distinction "only POINTS 
the direction of an overcoming," an overcoming which eventually overcomes 
the very "ground" by which it was pointed to that overcoming in the first 
place. That is NOT the way that you tried to dissolve the o/o distinction! 
Yes such distinctions are EVENTUALLY overcome, AFTER its essential 
prevailing is cleared through that pointing, which involves such 
distinctions. But what you did was cut off that very initial POINTING in the 
first place, by mis-interpreting specifically ontological terms in an ontic 
manner (mitsein, being-with, anxiety, being-alongside) FROM THE START. So 
the way in which you are dissolving the o/o distinction is the way in which 
the ENLIGHTENMENT "dissolved" the o/o distinction, by equating Being with 
beings. That is not the way in which Heidegger is doing this above!

Anthony Crifasi

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