Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:31:21 +0200
Subject: Re: Medium


Cologne 15-Apr-2001

allen scult schrieb Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:33:04 -0500:

> At 11:04 AM +0200 4/14/01, Michael Eldred wrote:
> >Cologne 14-Apr-2001
> >
> >Another note on medium or middle voice, from Heidegger:
> >
> >"Der _logos_ selbst muss in seinem eigenen intentionalen Charakter
> >genommen werden: Er ist _apophansis_, vermeinendes, vom Gegenstand her
> >aus diesem schoepfendes (_apo_), diesen Ansprechen und Besprechen.
> >Entsprechend ist das _apophainesthai_ zu nehmen: fuer sich (Medium) den
> >Gegenstand von ihm selbst her 'erscheinen' lassen als ihn selbst."
> >(Dilthey Jahrbuch Bd.6 1989 S.257)
> >
> >Translation:
> >"The _logos_ itself must be taken in its intentional character: it is
> >_apophansis_, perceiving, drawing from the object out of the object
> >(_apo_), addressing and discussing it. _Apophainesthai_ is to be taken
> >accordingly: allowing/letting the object 'appear' from itself as itself
> >for oneself (medium)."
> >
> >The medium voice of _apophainesthai_ indicates the involvement of the
> >perceiver.
>
> Michael,
>
> How would you characterize the involvement of the perceiver in the
> process Heidegger is describing here?   I'm especially wondering
> about "vermeinendes" .  In the German above, isn't it more closely
> "absorbed" into the ambiguities of how the intentional character of
> the logos is taken?  It seems to me, in all the apologetic pretense
> of a non_German-speaker, that translating "vermeinendes" as
> "perceiving" too definitively locates the medium, being suggested
> here in perception, thereby allowing too easy a passage to " the
> involvement of the perceiver."  Complicating the involvement of the
> perceiver, in this context,  is the fact that Heidegger  seems to be
> insisting on the "purity" of the intentional character of the logos,
> keeping it "free" from the possibility of pseudos.

Allen,
Of course you put your finger on the weak link in the translation. "Vermeinen"
is not easy to get across. "Think" is too bland or misleading, so I chose
"perceive", although sensuous perception ("wahrnehmen") is NOT intended.

As for 'purity' of the _logos_, in the context of the passage cited it would
seem that it is precisely the impurity of the _logos_ which is being addressed,
for it can only come to its 'truth' ("Wahrsein" S.256) "via the detour of the
_pseudos_". (S.256) This means that the perceiver of the object has to work
their way through how the object seems to be in the course of addressing and
discussing it in order to arrive at how the object shows itself of itself as
itself.

The _logos_ is impure for this reason, whereas the _nous_, insofar it is
without _logos_ (_aneu logou_) in an immediate perception of the _archai_, is
pure and without _pseudos_. The _nous_ does not require any detour through the
_logos_ and its falsity.

To come to your question, the involvement of the perceiver in this "addressing
and discussing" (perhaps just for and with oneself) is one of working through
how the object shows itself in order to come finally to its true (unadulterated
with _pseudos_) self-showing. This working-through for oneself (_dialegesthai_,
another medium) is necessary because, at first and for the most part, we _take_
things to be not what they are in their self-showing of themselves as
themselves (Dafuernahme, Dafuerhalten), and they also _give_ themselves in
deceptive appearances which have to be cleared away. Things are not what they
seem.

Michael
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>
>
> I'm needing to run, and am concerned I have not made myself clear.  I
> hope I can get back to this soon.  I'm fascinated by the connected
> ambiguites of intentionality and apophansis
>
> Allen
>
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