Subject: Re: Mind & Body, One More Time
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:40:29 +0200


Dear TMB,
Henry did most of the work in answering you
Maybe in your answer _a certain extremism at work_
just read the first sentece carefully: (In German):
Dass ein (!) Dasein faktisch mit Wissen und Willen der Stimmung Herr werden
kann, soll und muss, mag (!) in gewissen Möglichkeiten (!) (can you see how
many _cautelas_ or _mays_ are here at work?...) des Existierens einen
Vorrang von Wollen und Erkentnnis bedeuten.
(probably is this sentence a recall of some (Jaspers?) common view(s) of
psychology (or folks psychology...)
Immediately he weakens (!) this mastery (that can take place in certain
situations...)
Nur darf das nicht dazu verleiten...
Knowledge and Will are carefully (ontologically) undermined by moods (where
do you hear will to power over moods in general on the basis of knowledge
and will?, he says _mag_, that is somehow an answer (!) to a non explicit
counterargument...)
Finally: how do we become _masters_ of moods? not through knowledge and
will, but through another (contrary) mood (Gegenstimmung)
Of course everything is _more open to exploration than H. indicates_. Who is
questioning this?
Where is H. _desubstantializing mood's causes_?
To say something escapes _Heidegger_s thinking altogether_ is pretty naiv:
of course many things escape H.s thinking (and everybody's), You seem to
have a pretty overview on _H.s thinking_ (_altogether_). With this kind of
commentary we (I) cannot argue further (altogether).
H. lost the _They, not to mention the Him_, pretty vague - altogether.
kind regards
rafael

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Von: TMB <tblan-AT-telerama.lm.com>
An: heidegger-AT-lists.village.Virginia.EDU
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Datum: Mittwoch, 1. Juli 1998 19:29
Betreff: Re: Mind & Body, One More Time


>On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, Prof. Dr. Rafael Capurro wrote:
>
>> I have the impression that you read only half of the passage concerning
>> moods. I have now present p. 136 of the German edition.
>> H. states that Dasein may (could and should) become _factically_ master
of a
>> (!) mood, but (!) that this does not mean that being-in-the-mood is not
>> primordial (to will and knowledge as ways of becoming master) and (!)
that
>> this mastering only (!) happens on the basis of another mood
>> (_Gegenstimmung_) . Medard Boss writes: _Um-stimmung_ (p. 291 of his
>> Grundriss). There is no will-to-power concerning moods in this passage.
>> rafael
>
>We have a certain extremism at work: on the factital end, mastery. On
>the..."other" end, abject, uncognizeable thrownness (the causes of moods
>are seen as beyond the cognitive powers of Dasien in Heidegger).
>Proximally and for the most part, neither of these is the case, I suggest.
>Sheer being in a mood, i.e., that it is that Dasein has a mood, is one
>thing, something that would refer us to Leibniz ("why is there something
>and not simply nothing?", and to Heidegger's topology relating the various
>existentialia). But the whence, wherefore, whither, hows, ways of moods
>(the very stuff of therapeutics)  are more open to exploration than
>Heidegger indicates. These, indeed, call for exploration and
>understanding, as does Heidegger's characterization of Dasein's
>resoluteness that is all too ready to shove aside so *many* things as
>idle, meaningless, insignificant, uncognizeable, etc. The de-cognizing
>and, in a way, desubstantializing of mood's causes and our relation to
>them sets the stage precisely for will-to-power as resoluteness, which,
>futher, is cast against a mistakenly characterized Dasein as predominantly
>*irresolute* and lost in the "They", not to mention the "Him", a category
>which escaped Heidegger's thinking altogether.
>
>TMB
>
>
>
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