Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:48:10 +0100 Subject: Re: HAB: Petition for International Investigation Committee on Dear list members! I find the call for an investigation of Ariel Sharons participation in the 1982 massacres in Lebanon quite in its place. It woulkd of course be even more important to adress the possible war criminals of really powerful nations such as the US officials involved in the Vietnam, Kuwaiti and Kosovan wars; the USSR officials responsibile for the atrocities in Afghanistan and Tchechnya; the French responsible for the terror in Algeria; the Chinese responsible for similar actions in Tibet and so on and so forth. But we have to start somewhere. I was nevertheless quite discouraged when it turned out that the signatures of the petition could not be read. A comment explaining that e-mail adresses would not be displayed because of the fear of abuse by a current virus did not satisfy me. In my opinion at least the names must be there to secure the legitimacy of the petition. I therefore mailed the ediotrs of the site the following comment: THE FOLLOWING COMMENT PRESUMES THAT THE RELEVANCE OF MY COMPLAINT DOES NOT REST ON SOME TECHNICAL PROBLEM RELATING TO YOUR SITE OR MY BROWSER: Petition signatures must be publicized! I seriously considered signing the petition calling for an investigation of the role of former Israeli defence minister Ariel Sharon in the 1982 massacre of refugees at the Shabra and Shatila Camps in Lebanon. The format of the petition convinced me that providing such a signature would not be right, however. Let me explain why: The public display of signatures is not merely a normal design of petitions, it provides the only force it carries. As opposed to an anonymous poll, which indicates the extention of a certain sentiment or opinion, a petition expresses a demand which the particular signers declare themselves responsible for holding and willing to account for. The moral force of a petition as opposed to a poll rests solely on the fact that indivdual signatures can be identified. To distribute a petition where individual signatures are absent or hidden is to blur this distinction and dilute the moral force of the petition. Without individual signatures pointing to moral persons that can be adressed and critizied for their actions, the accountability for adding to the force of the petition is lost. In fact, when the signers cannot be addressed individually, the heading "petition" has become a gross misnomer. The demand expressed then carries the same force as a masked mob in the street. I will not join such a masked mob, regardless of the merits of the demands they make. Therefore I urge you to make all signatures for your petitions visible, and preferably on a list that does not require the reader to click on each singel signature to see it. The display of e-mail adresses should not be necessary, as this could encourage spamming or other forms of abuse. But an indication of the place of residence, or some other information making it possible to adress the individual signer through public media, is absolutely necessary. Sincerely yours, Iver =D8rstavik University lecturer in moral and political philosophy, University of Bergen, Norway If you agree with me on this point, why not endorse my comments? After all, such petitions are an interesting and possibly powerful political use of the internet. It allows a many-to-many relation to supplement the one-to-many format of traditional media, and may therefore contribute to bring the mass media in close proximity with public discourse. If misused, however, it will contribute to undermine public discourse even more. Greetings from Iver At 22:12 14.03.02 -0300, you wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > I have just read and signed the online petition: > > "A Petition for International Investigation Committee on Ariel Sharon=92s > crimes against humanity" > > hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition > service, at: > > > <http://www.petitiononline.com/warcrime/>http://www.PetitionOnline.com/war > crime/ > > I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might > agree, too. If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider > signing yourself. > > Best wishes, > > Raul A Rodriguez > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Senter for vitskapsteori University of Bergen Allégaten 32 N- 5020 Bergen Norway --------------------------------------------------------------------------- E-mail: iver.orstavik-AT-svt.uib.no Telephone: (+47) 55 582978/ 55 367763/ 90 833923 Web site: http://www.uib.no/svt/io.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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