Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:50:25 -0500
Subject: Re: PKF: Identification


Hello, 
 

Robert wrote:

>I don't think you can sharply divide  "creation" and "accumulation" of
>knowledge, at least functionally in the individual.  The great difference
>is cognitively engendered in institutions or power contexts.  In the
>individual it's just a cognitive expediency. 


Question should be express clearly, so I just point out the question or
phenomenon. Robert's interpretation that I "divide sharply" "creation of
knowledge" and "accumulation of knowledge", though I don't think I have
sharply divided anything (things should be divided in discussion; whether
they are sharply divided or not, it depends on how one understands the
text), but I think, question must be made clear. Your text shows your ideas
or your questions but there is not clear for me. Robert used the
"cognitive" "individual"...etc., but these expressions, as I read Robert's
sentences, were used indifferently.     



Robert also wrote:
 
 >Ironically, according to what you said about validity Nazis were
>"instrumentally validating" Jews according to their own on-off  "washing
>machine" standard.


Robert understood two "different" points which I mentioned in my text in
"separate paragraphes", as one point. The example of how to use washing
machine as validity in a "limit" field of natural science is a point about
"validity" of someone's opinion. I don't think, there is any validity of
someone's opinion. Such validity may exist in a "limit" field of natural
science. This example is an example in natural science, but it is not for
the point of murder of Jews in the second world war. The problem which I
mentioned relating to murder of Jews is the problem about "identity".  
     

Now come to the other point from Robert. He wrote:

>The crux of  the identity issue, in my opinion, is how a person
>identifies himself  vs. how others might identify one against one's will=2E


I know, people grupping themselves consciously or unconsciouly in the
society. They also identify themselves as something because of their
interests, hobbies.....etc. But we should avoid and be conscious of the
problem of identity. When one identifies himself strongly in order to
against the identifying from other people which be pushed to him, this
process can just make the problem more difficult and make one becomes the
offering of the people who take against his will. 

English is not my mother language but I had tried to express
understandable. Anyway David's mail is good for me that I was stimulate to
think.

Wai Fung

 


 
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