Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 22:44:07 -0800 Subject: Re: forgiving is impossible David writes: >Again, I find the liberal humanism/Christianity of this rhetoric most >disturbing. It presupposes the innocence of the one who would forgive, does >it not? David: Only a 'higher' authority can forgive. This is reason itself. This whole paragraph is paraphrased from Protagoras and Socrates who is speaking with the Eleatic Stranger. I should have cited my sources, so it is pagan antiquity, not Xtian. Souls according to Plato are infinite innocent. It is the defective intellect, ignorance, an act that cannot be forgiven. Humanism and Xtian thinking does not disturb me, only particular expressions of humanism and xtian thinking disturb me, for instance 'The Grand Inquisitor" but not Santa Teresa or Psuedo-dionysius. My flesh would crawl every time I walked by a church if I the way you do David. I can think just as much as believe, but I let my thinking capacities assist my beliefs rationally, morally and ethically. It is the aesthetics that are problematic.... Sincerely, John What do you mean by "moral correction or punishment"? > >David >
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