File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2002/aut-op-sy.0202, message 276


Subject: Re: AUT: Fascism
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:03:33 +1100


hi all

I broadly agree with Floyce's response to Tahir on fascism but i have a bit 
to say on the subject myself.

fascism to me means a violent anti-proletarian movement outside of the 
normal channels of bourgeois rule. the obvious examples being Italian 
fascism and German Nazism which were both responses to mass proletarian 
struggles. as a form of government i don't think fascism is that different 
to other forms of capitalist rule such as Stalinism or military 
dictatorship.

>One last point: I don't think that fascism will disappear within a 
>capitalist order. It just ebbs and flows. The significance of this: 
>democratic anti-fascist movements are futile in the the longer view of 
>things; they just preserve the social order which will bring back fascism 
>again at some later stages and in some other places.

if my definition is correct then fascism while not disappearing has never 
reappeared fully fledged either. sure there are plenty of violent 'Nazi' or 
'fascist' groups but they have little support from the bourgeoisie. they 
could only get that support if proletarian revolts make normal rule 
impossible.

Dauve/Barrot in one of his pieces on fascism claims that fascism has been 
surpassed by better methods of integrating the proletariat into capitalism.

cheers
peter


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