Subject: AUT: response to chris Re: Re: Re: Star Wars and Archetypes
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:43:50 -0500


> Actually, commie00, there is a strain of conscious materialism in Chinese
> thought.  Fung Yu-Lan discusses this in his two volume work A History of
> Chinese Philosophy and Wing-Tsit Chan has partial works by Chang Tsai and
> Wang Fu-chih in his compilation: A Source Book in Chinese Philosophy,
which
> I also highly recommend for reasonably translated non-popular texts.

yeah, i've seen this stuff. my point was that if you go back into this
stuff, and its history, you'll find that the bulk of it either came out of
philosophical taoism (which is wholly different from the pantheistic,
ancestor worship religious taoism, etc.), or was absorbed into it at some
point.

one of the key source texts for philosophical taoism is the chaung tzu
(which religious taoists attack violently)... in it, one of chaung tzu's
favorite sparring partners is the dialectician and materialist hui tzu.
thruout the text, the two are clearly friends debating... and by the end
their philosophies are hardly distingishable.

> We also need to
> be aware that Taoism, Confucianism, Sikhism(?), Zoroastrianism, Hinduism
and
> Buddhism were not the only philosophies, but more or less popular
religions
> (and vice versa), and as such partially theologies.

true enough.... but we also have to keep in mind that for some reason,
nearly all philosophies that developed in eastern asia until very recently
carried the air of a religion. i've been delving more into this, because its
certainly an interesting phenomenon...


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