Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Re: Re: Class and other social divisions
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:08:19 +0100



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From: miyachi
Date: 10. februar 2002 10:24
Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Re: Re: Class and other social divisions


MIYACHI writes:

    Family is not class. But an element of civil society. current familial
    relation is merely money relation.
    In "communist manifesto" Marx wrote:


    "The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and
    has reduced the family relation into a mere money relation."

    and in Critique of Hegel (Js Philosophy of Right) 1843



    "The state results from them in an unconscious and arbitrary way.
    Family and civil society .."


Miyachi, I never suggested that familiy is class. And I would deny
you claim that current family relations are merely money relations,
even if that is undeniable one aspect.
There are still vast differences in family relations around the
globe, also within the same region and country, quite often following
the urban rural divide.
        Otherwise I fail to see how Marx in 1840ies could have much
insight about such relations in, for instance, Oslo in the year 2002,
where the child with several mothers and fathers (or none) has
pretty much become the norm and not the exception.

Harald




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