Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:47:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: yippi yi eh (New Yorker Article)



--- "roger, roger" <ineffable-AT-comcast.net> wrote:

> but i'll stand by my main point that 'real' torture
> can, and often is,
> psychological.  i know that for a damn fact, cause
> i've tortured many
> a southern baptist in my day.

I unfortunately knew someone who was tortured, and not
for some high ideal or freedom fight, but for a joy
ride. 1983 and I was a junior at highschool, two
seniors and two juniors went for a joyride, wrapped
the car around a pole, the two senior and one junior
got away. The fourth boy was caught by some patrolmen
as he was limping away. 

He was lucky, his father had a cousin in the army
(thats how things work in Pakiland) and they traced
him and got him out the next day. However, by then he
had confessed to 3 murders, 11 armed robberies and
other assorted crimes. Pakistan police have these
targets, solve 70% of crimes, etc. So, once in a while
they pick some one up, and that person confesses to
most of the crimes in the district. However, I
digress. 
He was in hospital for a couple of weeks. Had been
sodomized with a bristley something, bit of an
overkill for a 17 year old, who would have signed
anything after a few slaps.
Being teenagers, we piled him with questions as soon
as he returned to school. What was it like?, how long
did he resist? What was on his mind? etc. The gist of
what he said.
(translated from teenagerese)
"There is nothing on your mind. You aren't thinking of
God, or sexual abuse, or anything. your cortex shuts
down, and primitive pain avoidance circuits kick in.
You will do anything, say anything to make the pain
stop. and once it stops, do and say anything to make
sure it doesn't come back."

Torture is pretty simple. Psychological, emotional and
chinese water torture are luxuries. People who do this
for a living keep things simple and efficient.

Fuck. Too many bad memories.
Will go and abuse some beer cans.

Ali



	
		
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