Subject: Re: yippi yi eh (New Yorker Article)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 12:00:52 -0700


>
> The increased suffering based on religion seems more of a thing that
> happens to those people who want to hyperbolize it than the victim.
> Maybe later the victim has time to reflect, maybe not.  But that it
is
> somehow more inhumane to make an islamic practioner corn-hole his
> neighbor than any other religion is an empatheitc fallacy.  I too
have
> mores and this would violate them but is this somehow less an
offense than
> those committed against those of some religious bent?
>
> carp
>


i don't know carpo.  my inclination is that once i tell a whopper, i
stick to it.  sure, the pictures i've seen would probably not rise to
the same level of outrage as chopping off a limb or whatnot.  and
SURE, those who see a political advantage to overstate it will do so.

but i'll stand by my main point that 'real' torture can, and often is,
psychological.  i know that for a damn fact, cause i've tortured many
a southern baptist in my day.

the military want to make a strong distinction between torture and
'abuse' and i suppose they are correct.  but it's a damn fine line and
i suspect that real torture has occured on a regular basis.  nobody
took any pictures though.

roger