Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:06:06 +0200
Subject: Re: Violence and support directed at Block Block


It sounds all very logical. Many "pacifist" groups are not pacifists at all but just white middle class people who feel guilty about the third world. They don't really want to change the system, just make it a teeny weeny little bikini bit less cruel.

It's like the ATTAC movement which has a lot of succes right now in Europe among "good meaning" people. At the end it reinforces capitalism instead of posing a problem to it.

And although i abhorr (this sounds like those bleeding thingies i carry around) any idolating (like many armchair anarchist do regarding the black bloc), and although i  get often scared by mass/group actions, in this my sympathies do go to the black bloc. I just hope they don't get caried away by the lust of the power-feeling they must have experienced.

Anyway, real pacifists are strong minded people who can make their point without  playing into the hands of the system.

Erik

At 06:14 +0000 30-04-2001, Nicolas . wrote:
>>I'm skeptical about the SalAMI story. They don't like the use of
>>violence, but I really, really doubt that they'd pepper spray anyone.
>>This sounds like a false rumor.
>
>Nope, sorry, saw it with my own eyes (not that I was there or anything) and so did a lot of other people.  The SalAMI "pacifists" not only pepper-sprayed one person, but several people (with SalAMI stickers) were throwing bottles at people in the black bloc.  Plastic bottles, sure, but bottles nonetheless.
>
>What I have heard, but do not know whether it is just a rumor or true, is that some of them took workshops on how to stop property destruction and "violence."
>
>Nicolas
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