Subject: Re: whither -AT- list
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:33:05 -0000



Carp,

Violence in the name of self-defense is not
>anti-social in
>any way I can construe.

I concur.

  Of course this begs the question of what
>is
>legitimate self-defense?   Can self-defense be pre-emptive?   This is the
>thicket the rabbit must run.

Wouldn't pre-emptive self defense assume the guilt/intentions of another. 
And wouldn't that be 'wrong', from an anarchist POV? I also think that 
having a 'military' does indeed infer having a state. Armies must be paid 
for and maintained by some heirarchial structure, defendeing some ethereal 
idea like nation or state. Of course, this could lead to a matter of 
semantics.

                                   Later, John
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