Subject: Re: whither -AT- list
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:37:45 -0000





> > Damn good point there Thomas. I think a legit arguement can be made 
>against
> > a 'military' POV;
>
>Well, legit would depend on POV, wouldn`t it? And what is a legit
>perspective? My point was that you can`t really say that this and that view
>is legit, because the qualification would be flawed by an opposing
>perspective.

Hmm. Circular thinking. State sanctioned violence (militarism) cannot be 
defended by those who oppose the state. If you believe in the right of the 
state to exist, then you could argue for a 'military POV'. Since we are on 
an anti-state list I can't see this being a legit opinion of anyone here, 
and anarchists are always right! And if you say that a military POV is a 
legit position for anyone, that means anarchism is illegitimate. I think.

>If benign cooperation was the ultimate goal, that would be true. It could
>also be said that cooperation is the ultimate hereditory sin, which I could
>in a way agree with. But that could take a lot of time to explain.

Thanks for not going into it. I've had my fill of evolutionary pschology in 
the last month or so.

What I gather is that you don`t believe in violence as a legitimate
>waste of time, or was that me?

That could be read into my comments. However I think violence is justified 
upon occasion. And I don't consider damaging property as violence, just 
action.

                                   Later, John
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