Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:50:09 EST
To: puptcrit-AT-puptcrit.org
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] What Bil Baird told me...


I know that is what Bil told people, although I think his wife Suzy was the  
source of that reason. Basically, the reasons were financial. The Baird 
200-seat  theater was Equity from the inception, somewhat of a continuation of  
Equity agreements from the New York World's Fair show at the Chrysler Pavilion  in 
1964-65. It is likely that Equity would have been willing to negotiate with  
Baird if that would have kept the theater open and saved actors' jobs, but I  
think they opted not to pursue that course. The bottom line was that the  
value of the building at Barrow Street was greater than anything the puppet  
theater could ever generate, and the smart business decision was to sell the  
building.
 
     -Steven->
 
 
In a message dated 12/2/2008 6:59:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
vtpuppet-AT-starband.net writes:

Steven,  

This is interesting; because Bil told me his theatre stopped  public
performances because he made it an Equity Union house and then the  union
required the puppeteers be paid more than the house could  support...it was a
very intimate small theatre. 

I would like to  hear from anyone about their experience with the actor's
union?  

Years ago I took my child to the Disney Broadway production of Beauty  and
the Beast that had puppets for wolves yet I didn't know of any  puppeteers
hired for the show. I thought the wolves were just getting a  good shake from
some actors or perhaps stage hands. Can anyone clear this  up for me?

How about some history between puppeteers and the Unions?  

Thanks,

Ann Legunn -AT- the PuppeTree
_www.vtpuppeTree.org_ (http://www.vtpuppeTree.org) 


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Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Permanent Puppet  Theatres


Bil Baird's theater at Barrow Street in Greenwich Village  ran from  1967 to 

1978, only 11 years. But it sure was  special!



My own theater at Union Square ran from 1987 to 1998,  also 11 years. 



Both theaters succumbed to the soaring price of  the real estate  they 

occupied.



-Steven->









In a message  dated 12/1/2008 9:59:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,   

robertrogers-AT-robertrogerspuppets.com writes:



What   about the Bil Baird Marionette Theater on Barrow Street in NYC?   Ah,  

the happy, exciting times I spent  there.



Robert   Rogers







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