To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:18:29 +1000
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] another note on TV and lip sync


Although technical precision can be important Id have to agree with mjm on 
that. Its the essence of the character that convinces an audience and if you 
dont have that core skill no amount of lip sync, winking eyes, flapping 
tongues is going to hold that character up. I always ask realist painters 
why they dont just take a photograph, after all they have left art behind 
for the sake of technical excellence.
Personally I watch a puppet performance with a wholistic praxis, the 
environment created, the strength of the story delivery and wether the 
puppet LIVES in the soul of the puppeteer OR is it just a mechanical 
extension. I really dont think that I pay any attention to wether Puppet X 
dotted its I's and crossed its T's as long as I leave with a profound belief 
that it did (its called the suspension of disbelief, remember)...thats whats 
important and thats why a really good puppeteer can convince me that some 
fabric wrapped around a toilet roll has more life than a mediocre puppeteer 
with technical precision and a fully loaded puppet!
Just thought Id throw that into the mix.

D.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mjm" <mmoynihan-AT-wi.rr.com>
To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] another note on TV and lip sync


> On Jan 18, 2006, at 4:27 PM, Steve Axtell wrote:
>> I don't think it's an "obsession' to
>> strive for good lip synch any more than wanting a
>> marionette to walk correctly.  Isn't one that
>> walks convincingly better executed than one that slides across the
>> floor....?
>>
>
> Again, respectfully, IMHO, I think you argue to confuse your highly
> subjective "good" & "convincingly" with "naturalistic" or "literal".
>
> Part of the magic and vitality of puppetry and animation (and art) is
> that it defies, simplifies, amplifies, elaborates upon, ignores, turns
> inside out, etc. the mundane realms of literal, naturalistic realism.
>
> The artists intention rules. If your talent, skill and imagination can
> combine to present the visualization you intend, that is good.
>
> Convincing? That depends upon who is convinced or not...
>
> Art has room for the most anal retentive "realist" as well as the well
> as the most "let it happen, captain" experimentalist. The diversity
> enriches.
>
> You are allowed to your "good" & "convincingly".
> As are all others.
> (unless you are a member of the Republican party or the Taliban or...
> pick your favorite Despotism).
>
> mjm
>
>
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