Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:24:00 -0500
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] puptcrit Digest, Vol 15, Issue 32


I think that while obviously there are forms of puppetry, especially in
theatre, where lip-sync is unnecessary and the audience doesn't care and are
totally enchanted with the story and characters. What does bother me though
is when there is horrible lip-sync, which I've seen a lot.

Some puppeteers defend this by saying that the audience doesn't know the
difference, but if I took someone who knew nothing about puppetry and had
them watch the same puppet, oncee being performed with proper lip sync and
oncee not I would bet they'd more closely identify with the performance that
used proper lip sync.

I love stylized puppetry and animation (and prefer it to more "naturalistic"
work), but good stylized puppetry and animation are rooted in a solid
understanding and mastery of the artform.

It's like the old adage, "learn the rules before you break them".

Just my two cents.

- Andrew

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> I have been following this lengthy discussion(thread) with some interest
> and feel that you have finally made the point that I would like to have
> made myself. All this obsession with lyp-synching! My cloth puppets don't
> even have moving mouths. They have embroidered mouths and no-one doubts
> that they are speaking when they are merely moving their heads. My years
> of experience and training both as a puppeteer and a storyteller has
> taught me that the story is all and the first few paragraphs
> determine the tipping point when the imagination kicks in (or not) and
> anything you do or say after that is assumed to be happening whether it is
> or
> not. I wonder if anyone has ever seen Tom Tichenor's puppets in action. I
> have a book he wrote on puppetry that is long out of print and I use his
> patterns (greatly adapted) as a starting point for my own puppets. I don't
> much like his scripts, though.
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