Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:26:36 -0800 (PST)
To: puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] Spiderman II


Steve,
Thank You, for the acknowledgment. To be very clear
about my "Sour Grapes" post, I did NOT present
anything to the Journal. I was using the Journal as a
metaphor for the puppet community at large, which is
not really fair to the Journal at all. I have been in
contact with Paul Eide about that comment, and will
post that exchange here if he will okay it. 

It is a good lesson to me that you can't sit around
and expect people to take notice. Reasonable self
promotion isn't evil, just good marketing and good
information.

Greg 

--- Steve Axtell <steve-AT-axtell.com> wrote:

> Greg I wasn't aware that you were part of the 
> fantastic puppet effects on that film.  Congrats 
> to you and all the puppeteers that worked on 
> it.   Did you present the story idea to the 
> Journal, or did they just not pick up on it?
> 
> Ax
> 
> 
> At 11:34 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote:
> 
> >I will second that about Animatronics and special
> >effects puppetry being overlooked by our puppet
> peers
> >and others. I found it amazing that Spiderman II
> won
> >an Academy Award for effects, largely due to
> >traditional puppet techniques, but nary a word
> about
> >it in the Puppet Journal....
> >
> >My sour grapes for the night
> >
> >Greg Balllora
> >
> >--- William Hennes <williamhennes-AT-charter.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Ok that should have read "to pay" not "today". 
> I
> > > forgot to turn on the
> > > sentence construct :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "William Hennes"
> <williamhennes-AT-charter.net>
> > > To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] it's a big, big world or
> > > whatever
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thank you Liz and Mary.  It is amazing how
> > > surprised people are by prices.
> > > > It is almost an admitting of," I should not
> have
> > > today that amount ".   I
> > > > think puppeteers have to start thinking and
> > > promoting themselves as
> > > > Specialized or Specialist in what they do.  It
> > > seems to be a "buzz" word.
> > > > I
> > > > certainly see it as a specialized field.  My
> sons
> > > just came back from a
> > > > puppet show, and they loved it!  Puppets Rule!
> > > >
> > > > Fight for those prices!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > William
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Liz Evans" <liz-AT-etherboy.com>
> > > > To: <puptcrit-AT-lists.driftline.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 5:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Puptcrit] it's a big, big world
> or
> > > whatever
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> William,
> > > >>
> > > >> I can't imagine you needing to build any
> ramparts
> > > for what you have
> > > >> stated.  We experience what you describe
> pretty
> > > much on a daily basis
> > > >> only on a microcosm level.  How often do
> parents
> > > bring their families
> > > >> to one of our Public performances for $9.50
> per
> > > person and go on and
> > > >> on about "how wonderful what we are doing is"
> and
> > > "what a great
> > > >> educational experience it is" and "can we
> > > travel?" "How much is it to
> > > >> bring to a school?"
> > > >>
> > > >> Now most of our shows are full stage
> productions
> > > utilizing at least 4
> > > >> members of our company.
> > > >>
> > > >> So, we tell them "$1,200.00" (And this is
> > > inexpensive for the size of
> > > >> the production)
> > > >> But immediately, it "Oh, can't you lower your
> > > price to come to our
> > > >> school, we are really small"  Or "Really, I
> had
> > > no idea how expensive it
> > > >> would be"
> > > >>
> > > >> And these are people who are Lawyers, Dr.,
> People
> > > of status, etc.
> > > >> Between track records of success and your
> > > insights, it is not a big
> > > >> surprise to see the same style repeated over
> and
> > > over.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you for your on point information.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >> K. Elizabeth Evans, President & Artistic
> Director
> > > >> Renaissance Artist Puppet Company
> > > >> http://www.RenArtPuppetCo.com
> > > >> 610-630-4259
> > > >> Company performing -AT-
> > > >> The Montgomery County Cultural Center
> > > >> 208 DeKalb Street, Norristown, PA
> > > >>
> > > >> Renaissance Artist Puppet Company's
> > > >> mission is to promote excellence in puppetry
> as a
> > > >> Theatrical art form and as an Educational
> tool by
> > > incorporating
> > > >> historical and cultural diversity along with
> > > quality performance
> > > >> techniques to tell our stories.
> > > >>
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