From: pore-AT-ime.net Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 21:43:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Marrett-- orgone motor - Correa-nov14 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 09:11:31 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: quinney-AT-inforamp.net Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:22:32 -0500 To: vortex-l-AT-eskimo.com From: Quinney <quinney-AT-inforamp.net> Subject: Re: Correas Reactor..a Reichian background? Resent-Message-ID: <"vK6r5.0.Ro6.1NVZo"-AT-mail> Resent-From: vortex-l-AT-eskimo.com Reply-To: vortex-l-AT-eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: <vortex-l-AT-eskimo.com> archive/latest/2182 X-Loop: vortex-l-AT-eskimo.com Resent-Sender: vortex-l-request-AT-eskimo.com Here is the letter that Doug Meritt sent to me that he had unsuccessfully posted to Vortex ... C.Q. X-From_: marett-AT-terraport.net Sat Nov 16 10:10 EST 1996 Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 10:02:48 -0500 X-Sender: marett-AT-mail.terraport.net (Unverified) To: quinney-AT-inforamp.net From: marett-AT-terraport.net (Douglas M. Marett) Subject: Correa Reactor Content-Length: 10707 Nov. 14th, 1996 I would like to address the comments of Mike Carrell below, which refer to an article on my web site called "The Orgone Motor Mystery Solved". My web site is at http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/2514 . I saw the PAGD effect first in 1992-1993 and recognized it as the same phenomenon as that seen in Reich's VACOR tube video from 1950, which is regularily shown at the Wilhelm Reich museum. In April, 1994, when Correas PCT applications were first laid open, and I began replicating his experiments, it became clear that what he was calling PAGD was identical to the pulse phenomenon seen in the Reich video. And I must stress identical - any observer performing Correas experiment and then examining the Reich's film would clearly see this. I am not attempting to claim that I saw the PAGD before Reich or Correa; its obvious that I saw it last. However, what I am merely pointing out is that the phenomenon are identical. I do not need to speculate whether Paulo and Alex got the idea from Reich - I was there, I helped with some of the initial experiments, and most importantly, Paulo told me that this was the case. I am not attempting to belittle the Correas work - I think that it may very well be an excellent piece of scientific work. The point of my article was really to spell out that the Correas discovered these things while attempting to replicate Reich's experiments, and although they have certainly gone well beyond Reich, Reich deserves a written mention, at least somewhere. Paulo and I had several conversations in the past about people deriving inventions from the work of Reich and not giving him credit, and how bad that was. That is why this situation is so ironic. I invite anyone interested to look at the similarities between the article by Wilhelm Reich, entitled "The Orgone Charged Vacuum Tubes(1948)" in The Oranur Experiment, available from the Wilhelm Reich Museum, P.O. Box 687, Rangeley, Maine, 04970, and the Correa patents. To list a few similarities, please see below: 1) In the Correas U.S. Patent # 5,502,354, Fig.3 and 4 are virtually identical to Fig. 7 from the above mentioned Reich article. 2) Also from U.S. patent #5,502,354, the Correas use curved electrodes in Fig. 5B This is identical to the electrode construction of tubes on display at the museum. 3) Reich felt that log2 numbers were very important, such as for pendulum lengths, etc., and incorporated this into his tube design, using plates which were 4 x 16 cm in size (64 cm2 and in one case 4 x32cm, or 128 cm2). A 64cm2 tube is shown in figure 7 of the Reich article.The Correas have taken these exact plate dimensions and reproduced them in their experiments- see table 2, U.S. patent 5,502,354. 4) The Processing of vacua protocol on page 9 of U.S. patent #5,502,354 is very similar to the protocol used by Reich, P.251 in "The Orgone Charged Vacuum Tubes". 5) The claims of U.S. Patent #5,502,354 read on the prior art as found in Reich's article. The only difference is that the Correas have added a scientific explanation in the claims. The end result is the same, since both Reich's tubes and those of Correas sustain PAGD emissions. However, patent law does not oblige the inventor to disclose references which could be of this nature. It is up to the examiner or a complainant to raise the issue, and once raised, if legitimate, can be grounds for re-examination of the patent. Thus from a legal standpoint, it is entirely in the Correa's interest to keep quite about Reich, hoping that this reference would not surface. >Marett built a tube similar in configuration to ones used by Reich and Correa >and observed discharges, including the conical discahrge columns, similar to >those seen in the Correa reactors. Marett says "However, it is not known >whether circuits using this unique tube design would generate excess >energy". >The circuit Marett shows as his Fig 6 has a capacitor connected >***directly*** across the tube, makiing it a classic glow-discharge >relaxation oscillator. Readers of my articles on the Correa invention in IE >should be aware that a) it does not operate as a relaxation oscillator and b) >a shunt capacitor or energy collection circuit is not necessary to obtain the >energy bursts. In my experiments with replicating Reich's VACOR work, I found that it was possible to see the so called "PAGD" type pulses without the use of any deliberate addition of a parallel capacitor to the tube. However, with most of my experiments, I did not have rechargable battery packs and thus had to used H.V. supplies which always have some form of regulating capacitor in parallel. However, if this capacitance is low enough and the impedance of the supply is low enough, a glow discharge tube will not oscillate as you describe. In several experiments (videotaped) I deliberately used parallel capacitors of high value to produce pulsations in glow discharge tubes, and the running of motors as control experiments. This was done with arc discharges, vacuum arc discharges and glow discharges. However, in the higher vacuum range, it becomes increasingly more difficult to produce glow discharges by these means, ie in the 1E-1 to 1E-2 range. If relaxation oscillations occur in this region, they become very weak and indiscenable from the glow. Correa's PAGD phenomenon allegedly can operate without a parallel capacitance. However, if and when this occurs, the pulses are very rapid and of low joule energy per pulse. In my experiments with small or no parallel capacitors in Correa's device, the efficiency is very poor and of little consequence. If you examine Correa's patent application # 5,449,989, fig. 8, you will see that he has in fact C3,C4 and C5 in parallel with the tube. Also, in figure 11, the motor run circuit has C3,C4 and C5 in parallel with the tube. In fact, this circuit is very similar to the one of mine which you have mentioned, except my tube is in series. In either case, transient current flow only passes through the motor when capacitors C3-C5 discharge through the tube. This is somewhat similar to Correa's Fig.9. He uses very large capacitors, C3 and C5, which must charge before and pulse can occur. The high joule energy of C3 and C5 pass through the tube, and the output is rectified.This discharges C3 and C5, and the next pulse will not occur until these capacitors have recharged and the voltage across the tube again reaches the threshold voltage. This can be demonstrated easily by having voltage meters in the circuit, which I regularly did. The utility of this is that very high joule energy is allowed to pass across the tube, and the recovered energy is logarithmically related to the amount of this current flow. Thus you can't explain my experiments, about which you know very little, as a relaxation oscillator, without applying the same arguement to Correa's. In reality, the key element is the tube, its vacuum level, gas filling, and architecture, which determine whether the pulses will be self-extinguishing. Also, in my experiment, I used a tube of unusual architecture and gas filling, which I feel was creating its own self-extinguishing pulses. This tube design was considerably different from Correa's. I really put this in the article only to show that it is possible to arrive at these kinds of experimental arrangements by replicating the work of Reich. >Marett goes on to say that he began replicating the Correa's work the week >after the application was laid open, and says he saw discharge forms similar >to those seen in pictures in the Reich museum. I have seen them also in a >discharge chamber built by Jeff Fink, but they do not produce excess energy. >It is only after Marett saw the Correa application that he introduced the >"low impedance" source. He blurs this; it is essential to have a driving >source which is internally rugged and stable, ***and*** the correct current >limiter, which my be only a few hundred ohms with the rather large >electrode >areas. Marett claims to have produced excess energy in the manner of the >Correas, ***after*** reading their application. The above paragraph is somewhat incoherent, but I will attempt to address it below. Reich would have had to have a relatively low impedance power supply, otherwise he would not have seen PAGD pulses, especially at the high vacuums he was operating at. Reich either was unaware of the importance of this, or just didn't mention it. Now that I have performed the Correa experiments, I can tell you that it is not that important to have a low impedance supply, since the capacitors C3 andC5 will charge just the same. However, the pulse rate will depend on the current supply, and thus if you want fast pulsing, you need a high current, low impedance supply. Otherwise, it will pulse maybe once a minute. However, that pulse could still produce free energy. What is important is how many joules are stored on C3 and C5 prior to firing. Secondly, I never claimed to have produced free energy before the Correa's experiment was performed. You are merely repeating what I said. >In conversation with me, Correa has referred to the existence of Reich's >work. It may be true that Marett brought Reich's work to Correa's attention. >It may be true that there are similar configurations in structure. None of >these are of the essence of the Correa's discovery, which is an ***operating >mode*** which evokes the very powerful energy bursts. There is no >evidence >that Reich saw *these*, or Marett, before he saw the Correa patent >applications. I never brought Reich's work to the existance of Correa. Correa and I were both interested in the work on Reich when we first met, and continued to be so during our entire relationship of 14 years. The Correa's have most certainly gone far beyond the work of Reich, and have developed a unique device based on what appears to have been a monumental research effort. Reich never claimed to have discovered free energy in PAGD type pulses, and neither have I. I think that there is shame on the Correas only because Reich was a major inspiration to there work, and yet has received no written mention. The Correa's have been quite complimentary to other inpirations, such as the work of Aspden. Obviously, the work of several individuals helped the Correa's along the way, most of whom have been referenced in their patents. These include even minor influences, such as Tanberg and Pappas. However, Reich is conspicuously absent. This was a deliberate omission on the part of the Correas, considering their history of replicating Reich's work, and thus the reason for my comments. Doug Marett M.Sc. --- from list orgonomy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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