Subject: re 9/11/01 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:24:58 -0500 From: "Steve Brockbank" <sbrockbank-AT-masergy.com> Matthew Tempting to respond to your statements. Eric's statement is quite mild compared to some of the anti-religous/anti-spiritual comments I've made in the past. But as you raise the issue... The amount of murderous violence currently being committed in the name of some god or other, usually through the false identification of race, culture and religion is high enough to make me view your suggestions with some suspicion... More seriously however the notion of globalisation that you are producing below does not take into account the post-modern economic structures from the international organisations, the G8 and G14/G20 groups of countries and the growing changes in development and the techno-scientific structures. The end of the pax-americana which you refer to as 'we purposely put Japan and Europe in a position to compete with us financially...' was not deliberate but resulted from the end of one economic period and the transition into the post-modern economy. The return to traditional Muslim values is related to this, not through 'mystification' but through what constitutes one possible Islamic postmodern project as proposed by Akhbar Ahmed. Islamic fundamentalism is postmodern insofar as it rejects the tradition of Islamic moderism which was simply the assimilation of European/American hegemonic values, postmodern values in the Islamic world mean a reversion to traditional Muslim values.... Nonetheless this is only really postmodern when considered in global terms - for as part of the Islamic fundamentalist position is the refusal of the new global economic world order, it is a rejection of the world market... The sheer scale of the internal Islamic conflict has to be considered as well, not just the current rulers of the Islamic world versus the fundamentalists but also the extent to which it is possible to deny the success of consumption based capitalism. The fundamantalist strategy is not new for it is the strategy that Facism, in its German and Italian varieties engaged in during the 1920s and 1930s as they rejected the modernist doctrines of American Capital and Soviet Communism. Remember also that it is the losers in the processes of post-modern globalisation, those who have been subordinated and excluded who are the ones who are the most fertile field for the fundamentalist ideologies... The desire for death is extraordinary... regards sdv
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